The Soviet Tanya

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Its also got horrible vision so you need to hug your opponent to get any information whereas rangers can nicely observe from a distance.

True, but it's often not a problem in the early game. It's only really vulnerable to groups of rocket troops and teslas. And even a ranger can run into a tesla regardless of the superior vision.

I build 7 rockets after my second pp the only thing your APC is going to scout is death.

I doubt that stops someone scanning a base. Even if you get killed you still likely gather intelligence on their position and build order. And quite possibly you will pass on through just taking a bit of damage.

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Its also got horrible vision so you need to hug your opponent to get any information whereas rangers can nicely observe from a distance.

True, but it's often not a problem in the early game. It's only really vulnerable to groups of rocket troops and teslas. And even a ranger can run into a tesla regardless of the superior vision.

I build 7 rockets after my second pp the only thing your APC is going to scout is death.

I doubt that stops someone scanning a base. Even if you get killed you still likely gather intelligence on their position and build order. And quite possibly you will pass on through just taking a bit of damage.

I will always go WF first or double ref your APC through my base will scout common knowledge. I have defensive structures queued for gren or flamer drops. If you find my early army your apc will die its as simple as that, the information you gained will be invalid because ill move and you dont have a scout now to find me again, a ranger can stalk an army. A ranger wont die because it can advance a cell at time and find the army not have to drive up to the blob so they're touching to locate.

This is why soviets are hard as it is very difficult to obtain vision untill Yaks are out, as someone said (I think OMnom) that playing soviets is like playing blind chess and requires a lot of game sense to work which I 100% agree with.