Hello, guys! You are doing a great work with OpenRA!
Let's discuss some aspects about possible MMO project in Red Alert universe. As a programmer, I would like to try building prototype of this kind of game (using RA/CNC1 graphics), but I need cleaner vision of the concept for this game.
How I see this now:
- One big "global" map for all online players. You "drop in" your troops, do your job fast and evacuate them when you want;
- Currently I have found two possible types of gameplay. First one is Direct Control of a unit like in a top-down shooter (WASD + mouse for targeting and shooting) This means "the Player is the Unit". The Second one is more classic - commanding the small group (10-20) of units. In my practice I have already built some prototypes for the both types of game (not using RA resources), and I find it more dynamic, active and funny to control the unit directly when playing online. It is very funny to control Planes and Helis directly;
- Much more actions for infantry, they are no low-level meat anymore. Now they will occupy houses and pillboxes and shoot from them (even with their RPGs). They can operate main calibres of Turrets, Flamethrowers, etc;
- Research and Upgrade. The Player researches new units and technologies, upgrades existing ones (firepower, armor, anti-personnel machineguns for tanks, etc). Players gain new Levels and increase their Skills (e.g. accuracy).
..To be continued. Please feel free to share your vision of possible MMO concepts for RA universe. Your participation in discussion is highly welcome!
Thank you for your attention!
Red Alert MMO Conept
Would you like to have a MMO in CNC1/Red Alert universe?
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noobmapmaker
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i had an idea for a C&C sorta mmo where you could replay the missions of old but there is 2 options to playing that you can switch between aka the commander mode (the C&C we know and love) and commando mode (C&C renegade) so you could join a mission in progress as a commando of your chosen faction also would have skirmishes that all commandos would be player controlled.
About the Base Building – yes, there will be this kind of gameplay element. As said before, there is a huge map. It contains some Control Points your side may capture to gain income – villages, cities, oil derricks, etc. At least Four sides will be available to play for (Soviet, Allies… NOD and GDI, maybe? Currently I don’t know). When Control Point is captured, players with enough cash and researched technologies may begin to build a base and defenses in the borders of captured territory. It’s the teamwork.
The purposes of different constructions are changed now. For example, ground factories (War Factory and Barracks) are used to spawn reinforcements. Players may use it like spawn points or some kind of “teleport” – your tank may drive in War Factory from the first base and then rather quickly drive out from another base’s War Factory. It is a quite useful way to get reinforcements for protecting attacked base, but not immediate enough for creating “Defensive rushes”. Defensive structures (Pillboxes, Turrets, AA Guns) are very helpful, but the infantry needed to operate them – as said before, soldiers are not a cannon fodder anymore.
You will have a “Side Chat” where the information about helping attacks or defending positions will be published, so you will have a chance to visit nearest Barracks (for infantry) or War Factory (for machines) to re-spawn as close as possible to the event you want to participate in.
Overall, the game mechanic must be revised, so the cooperation between players will give better result than a stupid “classic” rush. For example, I see the effective attack operation like this:
1) Artillery beats enemy defenses from a significant range;
2) If available, air units help to bomb out remains of enemy buildings to prevent reinforcements;
3) Ground operation (tanks + infantry + support vehicles) to end with enemy armored machinery and capture the Control Point;
4) When the Control Point is captured, start to build your own base.
There is a good defensive tactic for protecting your base too:
1) Inform your side about enemy attack to get reinforcements as fast as possible;
2) Fast counter-battery operations against light-armored artillery;
3) Equipping defensive structures with infantry to prevent possible rushes.
This is something we can see in the real life, isn’t it? More than two battle sides can make these operations very funny and unpredictable. Even loner players can contribute as spies or saboteurs.
As already said, the most interesting part of this concept is to make teamwork more useful than classic rush or cannon fodder tactics. Any unit is not a “lemming from the crowd” anymore. For example, infantry may have two weapons (rifle and rocket launcher) and switch between them when needed. Skilled player with his Light Tank may defeat Medium Tank using his machine maneuverability or high Accuracy skill. Pro may even try to compete with unimproved Heavy Tank in duel battle. Infantry with rocket launchers in the buildings are very dangerous for any kind of heavy and slow machines – it is very effectively to organize such ambushes, because tank AT-cannons (without upgrades) are little effective against concrete buildings. On the other side, HE shells, heavy machineguns and flamethrowers are quite effective to squeeze out the infantry from the building, even not destroying the whole building. Yes, this is something Sudden Strike-like, but Red Alert graphics and setting are more suitable to create MMO with direct unit control (SS is fully isometric, so it is not suitable for Direct Control).
What do you think about it? Is it worth to begin this kind of project? Would you like to play something like that?
Thank you for your attention! Let’s discuss any questions you have about the concept, please!
The purposes of different constructions are changed now. For example, ground factories (War Factory and Barracks) are used to spawn reinforcements. Players may use it like spawn points or some kind of “teleport” – your tank may drive in War Factory from the first base and then rather quickly drive out from another base’s War Factory. It is a quite useful way to get reinforcements for protecting attacked base, but not immediate enough for creating “Defensive rushes”. Defensive structures (Pillboxes, Turrets, AA Guns) are very helpful, but the infantry needed to operate them – as said before, soldiers are not a cannon fodder anymore.
You will have a “Side Chat” where the information about helping attacks or defending positions will be published, so you will have a chance to visit nearest Barracks (for infantry) or War Factory (for machines) to re-spawn as close as possible to the event you want to participate in.
Overall, the game mechanic must be revised, so the cooperation between players will give better result than a stupid “classic” rush. For example, I see the effective attack operation like this:
1) Artillery beats enemy defenses from a significant range;
2) If available, air units help to bomb out remains of enemy buildings to prevent reinforcements;
3) Ground operation (tanks + infantry + support vehicles) to end with enemy armored machinery and capture the Control Point;
4) When the Control Point is captured, start to build your own base.
There is a good defensive tactic for protecting your base too:
1) Inform your side about enemy attack to get reinforcements as fast as possible;
2) Fast counter-battery operations against light-armored artillery;
3) Equipping defensive structures with infantry to prevent possible rushes.
This is something we can see in the real life, isn’t it? More than two battle sides can make these operations very funny and unpredictable. Even loner players can contribute as spies or saboteurs.
As already said, the most interesting part of this concept is to make teamwork more useful than classic rush or cannon fodder tactics. Any unit is not a “lemming from the crowd” anymore. For example, infantry may have two weapons (rifle and rocket launcher) and switch between them when needed. Skilled player with his Light Tank may defeat Medium Tank using his machine maneuverability or high Accuracy skill. Pro may even try to compete with unimproved Heavy Tank in duel battle. Infantry with rocket launchers in the buildings are very dangerous for any kind of heavy and slow machines – it is very effectively to organize such ambushes, because tank AT-cannons (without upgrades) are little effective against concrete buildings. On the other side, HE shells, heavy machineguns and flamethrowers are quite effective to squeeze out the infantry from the building, even not destroying the whole building. Yes, this is something Sudden Strike-like, but Red Alert graphics and setting are more suitable to create MMO with direct unit control (SS is fully isometric, so it is not suitable for Direct Control).
What do you think about it? Is it worth to begin this kind of project? Would you like to play something like that?
Thank you for your attention! Let’s discuss any questions you have about the concept, please!
Actually I would love to see a fusion of (the forgotten one) Command and Conquer: Sole Survivor and the recently MOBA. My idea is to use every tank in the game (like Sole Survivor) but giving them an unique ability (as their powers), but of course every tank in the game has their pros and cons, it would be like a DotA, but with the style of Sole Survivor... and maybe a bit of "Twisted Metal" (PS game)
GG.
Edit: When I say including all tanks in the game I mean GDI, Nod, Allies, Soviet, Ordos, Harkonnen and Atreides. Imagine the possibilites.
GG.
Edit: When I say including all tanks in the game I mean GDI, Nod, Allies, Soviet, Ordos, Harkonnen and Atreides. Imagine the possibilites.