How to make France more appealing for players

SoScared · Post by **SoScared** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:35 am

Novastar wrote: ↑Sniper as a support power sound much more reasonable than as a normal unit. Then again, how would that fit into the "theme" of france?

'Leon The Professional'

Pretty damn good I would say

Fahrrad · Post by **Fahrrad** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:56 am

french civilians you can only build in 5er squads, La Resistance!! but planting bombs and shooting is something Tanya already can. So we need different abilities.

noobmapmaker · Post by **noobmapmaker** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:41 am

FiveAces wrote: ↑If snipers prove to be a balance issue as a mass-produced unit, how about having them as a support power?
Helipad as a prerequisite, 4 minute cooldown to deploy a team of 2 snipers onto the battlefield (dropped from a chinook, anywhere on the map)?
That would turn them into more of a strategic element.
I'm not a fan of raw statistical increases as a faction trait, and this would add to the gameplay imo.

Sniper paradrop would fun!

FiveAces · Post by **FiveAces** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:30 pm

Maybe switch their theme over to "Guerilla warfare"?

That would tie in with both the obfuscation (mobile gap/fake structures) and ambush tactics (Sniper drop).

epice · Post by **epice** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:17 pm

Give Hijacker to France, I mean why the hell do soviets have that anyway?

Hijacker and Sniper, France should have stronger infantry in general?

noobmapmaker · Post by **noobmapmaker** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:38 am

A Topless Tanya would make France more appealing.

Post by **Murto the Ray** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:09 pm

noobmapmaker wrote: ↑A Topless Tanya would make France more appealing.

What about topless SoScared?

GoldenHippo · Post by **GoldenHippo** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:37 am

Topless SoTanya

SoScared · Post by **SoScared** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:35 am

https://github.com/OpenRA/OpenRA/pull/9730

I like these changes! Fake structures will be better concealed with a clever health bar that drops like a real structure. This encourages the deception plays that I've hoped for, and actually witnessed some players try out lately. Also a big health buff to the fake Nuke Silo and Chrono (pdox?) will make France very tech resilient in the late-game.

dzine · Post by **dzine** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:40 am

Q what are the french famous for ?

Englands got James Bond

France invented grenadiers

EUREKA
A grenadier (from French, derived from the word grenade[1]) was originally a specialized soldier, first established as a distinct role in the mid-to-late 17th century, for the throwing of grenades and sometimes assault operations. At that time grenadiers were chosen from the strongest and largest soldiers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenadier

Give france the grenadier A buffed usefull version
http://www.sleipnirstuff.com/forum/view ... 82&t=19088

noobmapmaker · Post by **noobmapmaker** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:56 am

Another idea (from reddit): a shroud generator!

France has a gapgenerator that has a small radius at first, but it grows over time!

scorp · Post by **scorp** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:54 pm

France seems to be lacking attractive attack units. Gap Generators and fake buildings are fun, but you also want to attack to be winning games.

I use a cost-effective Special Forces infantry unit called (not surprisingly) the Legionnaire for France in my game. Doesn't completely offset the game (not-Tanya), but gives them a slight boost in the infantry game.

Fahrrad · Post by **Fahrrad** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:37 am

What about demo trucks, that get dropped like parabombs? I'd love it

dzine · Post by **dzine** » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:22 pm

There was another female character included in the original game but she was disabled/dropped.

the GFX files for that unit should be fairly easy to find and use

there are quite a few civilian types in the original game, maybe one of those could be repurposed ?

just a thought

JOo · Post by **JOo** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:24 pm

@dzine : what you refer to is "Megan"

according to "Ishmael" its cut content https://web.archive.org/web/20090605035 ... 40&p=18217&

the idea was to have one gunslinger (tanya) and one bomb-expert (megan) both for allies ...

i would not trust the source of one person ... just because someone is writing something in a forum , doesnt mean theres actually truth behind it (who he is , what he did ...and so on)

second , its cut content and has not been confirmed by canon sources (the wiki page is giving a hint to that)

... altough it would be easy to modify a tanya to have red , slightly longer hair ... we would need a icon that fits ... which we dont have

and the last one , and pretty much the hardest obstacle ... you would need to get this idea past pchote ...although i can tell you , he would not like it ... cause pchote (initially with me) did hound out all the foreign content ... like the snipers for example ... and currently represents a solid "no custom Art for our main mods" opinion ... in terms of "new unit content"
we have rare exceptions , the Flak Truck for example , which helps to balance the soviet-allies game ...