OpenRA - Red Alert Wiki created
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OpenRA - Red Alert Wiki created
EDIT:, as of 2018, the Unofficial OpenRA - Red Alert Wiki is fully functional and has nearly all the needed information.
Hello!
I am a casual OpenRA player. I usually play by the handle "saf".
I've created a Wiki for "OpenRA - Red Alert" at Wikia 4 days ago, and I'm aggressively adding content. I've added 75 articles already! (Along with images)
I intend to document just about everything over the coming weeks. The Wiki aims to document gameplay mechanics and tactics.
Here's the link: http://openra-red-alert.wikia.com/
The WIKI differs from the official documentation project in goals.
- It is focused solely on "OpenRA - Red Alert" and not other mods
- It is focused solely on gameplay, and solely aims to document facts about units, unit behavior, and tactics.
Feel free to contribute, but when doing so, please adhere to the guidelines, and please discuss before making non trivial changes. (Particularly to templates, categories, and major structural changes).
Please note that this is an unfinished project. The Wiki was speed-built. Mistakes and imperfections may be present. I'll refine it gradually and add more details.
I'll leave you with a riddle: How does a War Factory decide whether it's Soviet or Allied? Answer here: http://openra-red-alert.wikia.com/wiki/War_Factory
Hello!
I am a casual OpenRA player. I usually play by the handle "saf".
I've created a Wiki for "OpenRA - Red Alert" at Wikia 4 days ago, and I'm aggressively adding content. I've added 75 articles already! (Along with images)
I intend to document just about everything over the coming weeks. The Wiki aims to document gameplay mechanics and tactics.
Here's the link: http://openra-red-alert.wikia.com/
The WIKI differs from the official documentation project in goals.
- It is focused solely on "OpenRA - Red Alert" and not other mods
- It is focused solely on gameplay, and solely aims to document facts about units, unit behavior, and tactics.
Feel free to contribute, but when doing so, please adhere to the guidelines, and please discuss before making non trivial changes. (Particularly to templates, categories, and major structural changes).
Please note that this is an unfinished project. The Wiki was speed-built. Mistakes and imperfections may be present. I'll refine it gradually and add more details.
I'll leave you with a riddle: How does a War Factory decide whether it's Soviet or Allied? Answer here: http://openra-red-alert.wikia.com/wiki/War_Factory
Last edited by SafwatHalaby on Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:42 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Very nice! Do hope it will expand to other mods as well and people keep fine-tuning the articles. Good job tho!
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Nice job !
I've seen the building durations are wrong, you don't mind I correct them ?
I've seen the building durations are wrong, you don't mind I correct them ?
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Thank you!noobmapmaker wrote: ↑Very nice! Do hope it will expand to other mods as well and people keep fine-tuning the articles. Good job tho!
I think other mods should have their own dedicated wikis. e.g. openra-td.wikia.com. However, since I don't play the other games myself and I don't have the time to learn their gameplay mechanics, I think this job is best left for other people.
I do hope you mean /some/ building durations are wrong. Feel free to fix them! It's a wiki after allFRenzy wrote: ↑Nice job !
I've seen the building durations are wrong, you don't mind I correct them ?
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I think others may be wondering why I didn't contribute to the official documentation instead of making a new Wiki. The main reason is the scope of the project as mentioned above, but there are technical reasons too: The Github Wiki is suited to store large, mainly independent documents. If something fits a Microsoft Word document, it's okay on the Github Wiki.
But the MediaWiki system is better optimized for quickly getting facts and quickly contributing, and is more fine tuned for managing a huge armada of smaller interlinked articles that share similar patterns. It has features the Github Wiki lacks such as InfoBoxes, templates, categories, anonymous contributions (no account required), and an interlink and redirect system.
Also, I don't know what revision system the GH wiki uses, but if it's Git, then it's overkill, and the mediaWiki revision system is more convenient for article management.
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Ok all done it is mainly the infantry and vehicles that I fixed
Btw, small detail : "Sandbags" is for Allied only, Soviets have "Barbed wire", if you want to change that ^^ I wasn't sure how to do it
(Same characteristics, just different name/visual)
Btw, small detail : "Sandbags" is for Allied only, Soviets have "Barbed wire", if you want to change that ^^ I wasn't sure how to do it
(Same characteristics, just different name/visual)
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Yup, I checked your comment indeed, I actually have some of them wrong on my own spreadsheet lol
Thx for pointing out
Thx for pointing out
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[06:40:55] <abcdefg30> uh, we even got http://openra.wikia.com/wiki/OpenRA_Wiki about the engine
[06:41:03] <abcdefg30> over 3 years old though
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That wiki is about the engine itself. This one is about "OpenRA - Red Alert".
Also, I am not interested in duplicating the original C&C wikia articles nor the official documentation project, so non-gameplay information is mostly out of scope.
Lastly, there are exactly 6 pages, 4 of which have a single sentence. The OpenRA - Red Alert Wiki already has 75 articles. There isn't much to salvage.
Also, I am not interested in duplicating the original C&C wikia articles nor the official documentation project, so non-gameplay information is mostly out of scope.
Lastly, there are exactly 6 pages, 4 of which have a single sentence. The OpenRA - Red Alert Wiki already has 75 articles. There isn't much to salvage.
That wiki is about all aspects of the engine, like being a player on it. While you're right that there is minimal information in some sections of, the reason is because someone needs to fill in and maintain the wiki. If you want to have your unofficial side project I don't see a problem, personally, but I think your efforts might be more productive going into fleshing out the official wiki. It's been well discussed now that it is quite out of date, especially the new players guide and I'm certain no one would object to someone making it more consistent and informative. Some of the work you have already done may also serve as a nice foundation for: https://github.com/OpenRA/OpenRA/issues/3788SafwatHalaby wrote: ↑That wiki is about the engine itself. This one is about "OpenRA - Red Alert".
Also, I am not interested in duplicating the original C&C wikia articles nor the official documentation project, so non-gameplay information is mostly out of scope.
Lastly, there are exactly 6 pages, 4 of which have a single sentence. The OpenRA - Red Alert Wiki already has 75 articles. There isn't much to salvage.
also, all those pages in wiki have much more than 1 sentence.
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Anjew,
I think the different Wikis have been mixed. Let me explain again more explicitly.
There are actually 3 wikis:
I think the different Wikis have been mixed. Let me explain again more explicitly.
There are actually 3 wikis:
- http://openra.wikia.com/ - That's the one with the 6 articles with nothing to salvage.
- https://github.com/OpenRA/OpenRA/wiki - The official GH wiki
- http://openra-red-alert.wikia.com/ - My new wiki
- It is not specific to a single mod, and I think that's messy for a Wikia site.
- It's about the engine, so its scope overlaps with the official Wiki and I don't like duplication.
- It has generic C&C articles so its scope overlaps with the huge http://cnc.wikia.com/ community, and I don't like duplications.
- It has large step-by-step articles, which are long reads, but my vision is a site where you get simple facts and tactics quickly about Red Alert. It'd consist of many small to medium (e.g. unit-specific) articles.
- The GH markdown is technically inferior to the MediaWiki system when it comes to what I'm trying to do. I'll quote myself from a comment above:
Because the Wiki does not deal with the engine itself and solely focuses on RA gameplay, and because it's not intended for big guides, there's no major content overlap with the official Wiki, since the goals are different. So I think they can coexist nicely and there will not be major duplication.The main reason is the scope of the project as mentioned above, but there are technical reasons too: The Github Wiki is suited to store large, mainly independent documents. If something fits a Microsoft Word document, it's okay on the Github Wiki.
But the MediaWiki system is better optimized for quickly getting facts and quickly contributing, and is more fine tuned for managing a huge armada of smaller interlinked articles that share similar patterns. It has features the Github Wiki lacks such as InfoBoxes, templates, categories, anonymous contributions (no account required), and an interlink and redirect system.
Also, I don't know what revision system the GH wiki uses, but if it's Git, then it's overkill, and the mediaWiki revision system is more convenient for article management.
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My apologies, I'm not good at reading, i thought you were referring to the official GH wiki which easily has at least 10 sentences per page :pSafwatHalaby wrote: ↑-snip-
I do still have certain concerns. I'm not against this at all. There isn't an overlap in the overall scope but the "Players" part is meant to outline the gameplay, units and their uses as well as tactics, primarily for new players. While it doesn't deal with just the Red Alert mod, that is 1/3rd of the work that needs to be done. I'd argue there is a little bit of an overlap.
Anyway, I just feel there is a more productive, or at least, symbiotic way to use your enthusiasm about the subject. I recommend going onto the OpenRA IRC and discussing with developers how to go about this if you want it to become official. They are usually quite flexible, especially when it comes to things like this. They may be willing to entertain some changes to how the GH wiki is set up or implementing a Wikia.
I hate to be blunt but I feel if you make an unofficial effort, it will probably be as popular as the wikia with one sentence per page.
Just my opinion.
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As of now the overlap is minimal, but I agree I should coordinate with the devs long term.
GH Markdown is poorly optimized for handling what I want to do, which is having many, many pages that use templates, and have interlinks, redirects, etc. And it's not something the devs can fix on a technical level. I'm unlikely to move the wiki there, but perhaps there are other things that can be done.
GH Markdown is poorly optimized for handling what I want to do, which is having many, many pages that use templates, and have interlinks, redirects, etc. And it's not something the devs can fix on a technical level. I'm unlikely to move the wiki there, but perhaps there are other things that can be done.