My suggestions (since they are meant to be a hit and run unit) reduce their health/armour and their price. I would choose not to make chrono tanks over medium tanks because of the time they take to buildSoScared wrote: ↑ The Chrono Tank (Germany) needs to be reviewed.
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It's hard to tell because it depends on how effective gunboats would be. They're currently cheap ($500) and crappy. I'd leave the price as is, but boosted damage. That said, if you move subs, IIRC, gunboats can never hit them (which probably isn't a problem because subs can't shoot while moving anyway).
Murto the Ray wrote: ↑Maybe some system where your power goes completely down and then with every 2 seconds 5% of it recovers until it is back at 100% would be better?epicelite wrote: ↑ One spy shouldn't completely disable you're entire power grid. Maybe like 30% of your power plants(at random) should go offline and not all of them?
Power plants could have an invisible radius, so whenever a spy enters a PP, all other power plants in the area are also out of power. So placing power plants would also be a strategic element of the game. I do agree - at the moment if you let a spy infiltrate your PP you fall behind significantly.
That said, the % modifier also sounds good to me. It's just wrong that a $250 unit screws up your entire base, production, defence structures.
I have a more radical idea for MAD tank. How about the following:
1) MAD tank doesn't explode, it just shakes the earth until it is undeployed
2) Earth shaking paralyses buildings (like engineer but without taking over them), also causing gradual damage.
3) Earth shaking disables defenses.
4) Earth shaking causes infantry to become prone.
Explanation for the new features:
1 - I think this unit should be different from the demo truck.
2 - I'm not sure about, but it fits with the original theme of the unit
3 - presents an interesting way to handle players who build too much defense (and can also combine with airplanes or v2).
4 - gives the soviets an additional way to handle infantary, which is something they currently lack.
Note that it is possible that giving all 4 properties to the MAD tank would make it too strong, so maybe a subset (1 and 4, 1 and 3, 3 and 4) is better.
1) MAD tank doesn't explode, it just shakes the earth until it is undeployed
2) Earth shaking paralyses buildings (like engineer but without taking over them), also causing gradual damage.
3) Earth shaking disables defenses.
4) Earth shaking causes infantry to become prone.
Explanation for the new features:
1 - I think this unit should be different from the demo truck.
2 - I'm not sure about, but it fits with the original theme of the unit
3 - presents an interesting way to handle players who build too much defense (and can also combine with airplanes or v2).
4 - gives the soviets an additional way to handle infantary, which is something they currently lack.
Note that it is possible that giving all 4 properties to the MAD tank would make it too strong, so maybe a subset (1 and 4, 1 and 3, 3 and 4) is better.
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I love it! Great ideas man. Maybe you could also limit this to only 1 active MAD tank (similar to Tanya) because it's indeed pretty strong as described. But I like its role.lucassss wrote: ↑ 1) MAD tank doesn't explode, it just shakes the earth until it is undeployed
2) Earth shaking paralyses buildings (like engineer but without taking over them), also causing gradual damage.
3) Earth shaking disables defenses.
4) Earth shaking causes infantry to become prone.
Also, flame turrets could be better against mass infrantry. They may already be better than a pillbox, but the thing is, is that allies have artie to counter large numbers of troops. Soviet V2 isn't as useful for that job. Soviet against Soviet is maybe too far in favour of tank / mass troop attack.
This is the most intriguing suggestion I've read on this forum for a while. This sounds like a MAD tank to me. I also like the idea of Soviet getting their own unique unit like Allied Tanya.lucassss wrote: ↑I have a more radical idea for MAD tank. How about the following:
1) MAD tank doesn't explode, it just shakes the earth until it is undeployed
2) Earth shaking paralyses buildings (like engineer but without taking over them), also causing gradual damage.
3) Earth shaking disables defenses.
4) Earth shaking causes infantry to become prone.
Explanation for the new features:
1 - I think this unit should be different from the demo truck.
2 - I'm not sure about, but it fits with the original theme of the unit
3 - presents an interesting way to handle players who build too much defense (and can also combine with airplanes or v2).
4 - gives the soviets an additional way to handle infantary, which is something they currently lack.
Note that it is possible that giving all 4 properties to the MAD tank would make it too strong, so maybe a subset (1 and 4, 1 and 3, 3 and 4) is better.
+1 for more interesting MAD TankSoScared wrote: ↑ This is the most intriguing suggestion I've read on this forum for a while. This sounds like a MAD tank to me. I also like the idea of Soviet getting their own unique unit like Allied Tanya.
wasn't there a Volkov character in RA?
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Graion Dilach
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The Volkov assets in OpenRA were a licensing nightmare due to using a ripped cameo from Red Alert: A Path Beyond (the Renegade-to-RA1 conversion) and Red Alert 2 Romanov voices.
Balance has nothing to do with that.
The base asset is still there, as being GNRL reused on the missions - similarly how in WW RA the Radar Jammer and the Tesla Tank were also the same unit internally, just edited on the particular missions afaik (MRJ was in Counterstrike, Tesla Tank was in Aftermath).
Balance has nothing to do with that.
The base asset is still there, as being GNRL reused on the missions - similarly how in WW RA the Radar Jammer and the Tesla Tank were also the same unit internally, just edited on the particular missions afaik (MRJ was in Counterstrike, Tesla Tank was in Aftermath).
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Thought i would add the typical "Arty is overpowered" argument here 
I dont think they are but i think that allies could do with shifting the focus away from arty to a healthier composition of units (promoting tanks etc). This would require some kind of nerf to arty AND a buff to general allied gameplay.
My personal thoughts are:
Nerf arty damage
Make allied tanks faster and make longbows fire faster
I dont think they are but i think that allies could do with shifting the focus away from arty to a healthier composition of units (promoting tanks etc). This would require some kind of nerf to arty AND a buff to general allied gameplay.My personal thoughts are:
Nerf arty damage
Make allied tanks faster and make longbows fire faster
Could something be done about Allied Artillery?
Too often do I see games which become a slugfest of spamming out artillery + rocket soldiers. It's very difficult to counter, especially in early soviet games. The arty will mince any incoming infantry or flatten a base while the rocket soldiers will wipe out air and tanks.
Too often do I see games which become a slugfest of spamming out artillery + rocket soldiers. It's very difficult to counter, especially in early soviet games. The arty will mince any incoming infantry or flatten a base while the rocket soldiers will wipe out air and tanks.