Bob's BAN LIST

I play a lot of the EU "no mines" version. There is a huge number of players who lag so badly it makes the game unplayable. It go so bad that roughly 1 in 3 games (with 6 players) were running at normal speed. As a result I created a ban list. There are three ways to get onto the ban list. 1) You slowed down a game to the point that people companied. 2) You joined a game and disconnected as soon as it started (These seem to be people who were unhappy with their spawn) 3) After dyeing you stayed in the game and deliberately created lag (trolling) Developers. The issue with a lot of lagers seems to be CPU. 5th gen intel and below seems to be guaranteed lag. A) would be it be possible to multithread more. As far as I can tell we are all using only 1 core. B) Create a rule in the code that if you are on a 5th gen or earlier you cant join multiplayer. C) A short term fix would be to display users CPU under their IP and let the hosts manage the issue. It would be great if we could find a solution as it buggers up and otherwise brilliant game.

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Vodka84
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I play a lot of the EU "no mines" version. There is a huge number of players who lag so badly it makes the game unplayable. It go so bad that roughly 1 in 3 games (with 6 players) were running at normal speed. As a result I created a ban list. There are three ways to get onto the ban list.

1) You slowed down a game to the point that people companied.
2) You joined a game and disconnected as soon as it started (These seem to be people who were unhappy with their spawn)
3) After dyeing you stayed in the game and deliberately created lag (trolling)

Developers. The issue with a lot of lagers seems to be CPU. 5th gen intel and below seems to be guaranteed lag.
*** EDIT - 5th gen intel notebook CPUs and bellow. desktop I don't know maybe 3/4th gen haven't tested it.

A) would be it be possible to multithread more. As far as I can tell we are all using only 1 core.
B) Create a rule in the code that if you are on a 5th gen or earlier you cant join multiplayer.
C) A short term fix would be to display users CPU under their IP and let the hosts manage the issue.

It would be great if we could find a solution as it buggers up and otherwise brilliant game.

Updated 2021-03-04

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Akaudio
Igorbushko (no lag but cheated talking after death)
Nicson
Blood
Joukov
Kalma
MastaSmithers
Mollmania
TailhatBrek
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The playtest releases should have significant performance improvements compared to the old release-20200503, but it has always been very difficult to get team players to test these builds so we don't have much data on how big the improvement will be for your games.

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Just need a little service running the background of the servers that sends a report back saying how many units vs how many frames / ticks. Could the hosts get the ability to kick someone once the game has started. I experience probably twice a week a group of 4+ will leave a live game due to lag because one person wont leave when asked.

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You can kick people as host after the game has started, it was added this release

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Sleipnir wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:48 pm
The playtest releases should have significant performance improvements compared to the old release-20200503, but it has always been very difficult to get team players to test these builds so we don't have much data on how big the improvement will be for your games.
confirmed.
The current play test has improved GUI and mouse latency as well as general FPS performance,
i will follow up with precise data soon.

Thank you for improving the performance for older machines.
Major out

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Punsho wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:00 pm
You can kick people as host after the game has started, it was added this release
How that would be really useful

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I really dont like this kind of shaming list, but to be honest, i burst out into laughter seeing 'blood' on it.

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in fact I run Xeon 3rd gen quadcore and game runs fine, without lag - EU No Mines. but I agree that there are people who lag as hell.

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Punsho wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:00 pm
You can kick people as host after the game has started, it was added this release
Did this make it through to the final as I don't see this as an option on the new release?

Thanks

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melons wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:38 pm
Punsho wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:00 pm
You can kick people as host after the game has started, it was added this release
Did this make it through to the final as I don't see this as an option on the new release?

Thanks
It was already on last release, you can press the x next to players name

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Punsho wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:01 pm
melons wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:38 pm
Punsho wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:00 pm
You can kick people as host after the game has started, it was added this release
Did this make it through to the final as I don't see this as an option on the new release?

Thanks
It was already on last release, you can press the x next to players name
I assume you mean 'specs' as we thought you meant players

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Austinker 217... Austria.. He slows his vpn when he wants.. Halts games hes not winning.. And the N*** spam

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A quick fix would be to just play on servers that only allow players with OpenRA forum accounts and build up a community of serious players this way.

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Dear zypres1,

first of all im from germany not austria. Second my nick is Austrinker. Third i dont use any vpn shit. I have 1000mbit ftth internet here i do never lag nor pause games. And last i dont N spam. Not once.

So do me a favour and stop writing wrong things here. And if u dont believe me just ask Bob himself. Played several games with him and no complains there.

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Well, could have been someone taking your name (written wrong).. But then again we have to beware of that happening again on that nick, so please (continue to) play with profile, then you should be safe.....Image

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